1989 B-PASS

BUCK-TICK BPASS INTERVIEW 1989

For you, Tokyo is...?
‚r‚`‚j‚t‚q‚`‚hF I don't think I fit in with the busy life. From the beginning when I moved, that aspect didn't necessarily attract me very much.

‚h‚l‚`‚hF It can change from lazy to fast rapidly. I think this is the most stimulating city in the world.

‚g‚h‚c‚dF@Even now, for me it is a very stimulating city. In the beginning it was a different kind of stimulation. A city where many things are created in urgent speed. But it's not meant for me to live here, I can't calm down.

‚x‚t‚s‚`F@It's a place to work more than a place to live in.

‚`‚m‚h‚hF@It's clearly where I work. When I finally retire, of course I will return to Gunma. At first, I used to ask myself "Why did I left for Tokyo?" but it is for the band. I don't think I'd like to live there all my life. If I have to die, it will be in Gunma.


Is Tokyo an utopia for you?
‚rF@No. Actually, anywhere is fine. I can't really settle down in any place in particular. We're in Tokyo for band work. As for a place to live, rest, I've given up on that. It's not hard, not really. It's better if I don't go out, I feel uneasy at bustling places, but it's not a big deal. But it's not an utopia, whether you like it or not.

‚hF@There may be some dangerous parts here and there. It's a mysterious place.

‚gF@‚m/‚`

‚xF@‚m/‚`

‚`F@Not really. I don't think there's utopia in this world.


What kind of person is your neighbour?
‚rF@I've only had a glance at them. Seems like they're a normal college student.

‚hF@A person who works at a pet shop, seems to be. I occasionally hear their cat meowing.

‚gF@I've only seem them once. They wear glasses...

‚xF@Parents and two children. I wonder what they think of me(laughs).

‚`F@Parents and two brats. Once in a while I see them and just nod.


BUCK-TICK BPASS INTERVIEW 1989 Your privacy is...?
‚rF@When I'm not on stage. When there's no interviews. Anything other than music. Everything else is privacy.

‚hF@When I'm not on stage. Everything else is privacy...

‚gF@When I don't want anyone to disturb me. It can't be protected.

‚xF@When I'm not doing anything related to the band. It's precious time.

‚`F@When it's my day off, I think. When I'm doing band stuff, there is usually a feeling of tension. When I don't feel that tension.


Is your privacy protected?
‚rF@No. But I think it can't really be helped at a certain point. Some people may look and see that B-T's Acchan on stage is the "same" person as private Sakurai. Sure, when people see me out of the stage they get the impression that I'm familiar and that they know me well, probably. It's inevitable, I can't do much about it.

‚hF@Not at all. People who stand in the way of our privacy, please stop.

‚gF@It isn't. I feel isolated sometimes.

‚xF@Very little...

‚`F@I have to protect my house. That's why I use a stage name. Yagami Toll is not the 'real' me, at home.


How do you handle frustrations?
SF@I don't, not really. If I get frustrated, it's not many times that I am able to let go of these feelings. I can't just say, "shut up and go away" when I don't have any more patience.

‚hF@Stage. After that, drinking helps to cancel it out somewhat, temporarily...

‚gF@I can't tolerate frustration very well. It's my nature.

‚xF@I don't have time to think about anything. Handle frustrations? Like, swearing? I drink, I guess(laughs). But it's unlikely for me to get perfectly frustrated.

‚`F@Making a racket, screaming etc. I just let go of these feelings.(laughs)


Do you consider yourself to be an ethical person?
‚rF I try to be(laughs). I seem to be so.

‚hF I'm not really aware of it, but because of that I may be even more aware.

‚gF I think I'm 'normal'. ...But, I have peed outside before(laughs). Also stuff like throwing empty cans too(laughs).

‚xF I think I'm just like anyone else.

‚`F I don't know for myself. It's fine, how others see me, but in my own view, I don't think I am.(laughs)


What are 'ethics', in your view?
‚rF First of all, communication. Saying 'thank you'. Feeling grateful. Feeling sorry. I think these are good. And extremely important.

‚hF@Balance of society. Unspoken understandings. But, recently these things are disappearing from the world...

‚gF@Good rules/laws are necessary. Otherwise, society will just turn into disorder and confusion.

‚xF@Each of us having different perceptions and understandings.

‚`F@N/A


Do you think BUCK-TICK is misunderstood?
‚rF@Yes. I think there are different ways to view the band.

‚hF@Yes. People see our looks and image and judge us only for it. Also because there are so many interpretations to the songs, people think we can't have any message in our songs.

‚gF@Probably.

‚xF@Yes, somewhat.

‚`F@Probably, I think. People have to consider what they have to say about us.


What is the answer to these misunderstandings?
‚rF@I'd like people to still think freely about us. We won't change.

‚hF@We don't make music only for appearances.

‚gF@N/A

‚xF@Come see us at a live.

‚`F@We'll keep doing what we do.


What is 'prejudice', to you?
‚rF@Something that doesn't matter. Assumptions. Selfishness.

‚hF@First impressions.

‚gF@Something I don't want to have.

‚xF@Something that you do not have[of yourself] but others have of you.

‚`F@As in... for the band? I don't think we're a sort of band that holds prejudice against others.


Do you have a big ego?
‚rF@I can be on good terms with people who do things I dislike, but I will always feel more at ease alone. There's no such thing as a person who isn't selfish.

‚hF@I think I have a strong ego. I want to be free to do whatever I wish.

‚gF@Most people don't acknowledge it. I think everyone does.

‚xF@I'm not sure.

‚`F@As for my own self, I'm not very sure. I don't know about a strong ego, but maybe a strong artist's ego. I have the will to be a great drummer, no one can take this away from me. I think this is my role in this band, playing the drums.


Do people need an ego?
‚rF@Even though what people say, I think everyone wants to have a part of them like that. So, yes, I think.

‚hF@Egoism is necessary.

‚gF@I think every of us in the band has a strong ego. People need it, or the personality is erased. An ego is necessary, for your own self.

‚xF@I don't know.

‚`F@Yes, you need strength and confidence in what you do. As a musician, I'm not very picky about my personality, but I don't think I'm egoist.


Do you think a spirit of cooperation is necessary in society?
‚rF@In my school report card, it was always written that I lacked a spirit of cooperation and that I wasn't able to adjust. Even though I still think I lack it. I do not intend to fix it, forcibly.

‚hF@I think it is necessary, but I don't know if I have one.

‚gF@To some extent. We don't exist all alone.

‚xF@Yes, we are never alone, so we need it.

‚`F@People aren't alone, so they need to help each other. It's unreasonable to not do it.


Do you think wars in this world have ended forever?
‚rF@As long as people's fighting spirit is not lost, war will never end.

‚hF@I'd like to think it's over. If everyone had the chance to go on a rocket and see the earth from up there maybe things would be quiet.

‚gF@They're not over. Humans are making secret weapons, and their war spirit will never end.

‚xF@No. because people have strong fighting spirits.

‚`F@It's human instinct to fight, so it won't end.


Have you ever had an ecstatic experience?
‚rF@Like, losing sight of yourself and everything? Yes, not in a small way. I can explain, but I don' think I should get in detail for a magazine page.

‚hF@Yes. But I don't know how to describe it.

‚gF@No.

‚xF@Yes. But i's usually very momentary. Ecstatic moments are fleeting, I think.

‚`F@I think so. Maybe.


Have you ever hated someone enough to want to kill them?
‚rF@Yes, but I won't tell details for a magazine page.

‚hF@No. I've never hated up to that level...

‚gF@No. Even though I've felt some hate, it was not ever this extreme. Besides, there's not many people I hate. It's more to the degree of disliking only.

‚xF@No. That's a scary thing, I think. I've hated, but nothing like this.

‚`F@Long ago. About 3 times(laughs). These days I just had a terrible temper. But everything is ok now(laughs).


Have you ever loved a woman so much you'd wanted to kill her?
‚rF@Yes.

‚hF@No.

‚gF@Yes.

‚xF@Yes.

‚`F@No.


Ever fell in love for someone of the same se‚˜?
‚rF@Yes. It was a different type of love than when it is with a woman. Someone who has the attributes I don't. A kind but manly person. He sings well too...

‚hF@Yes, as a person.

‚gF@Isn't 'falling in love' the same as 'liking' someone? I've come to like someone before, but it wasn't in a romantic way.

‚xF@No. Never had any sort of feelings(laughs).

‚`F@There are many friends that I've grown to love* during the years.
(* love, not necessarily in a romantic way.)


Do you approve same-se‚˜ relationships?
‚rF@Yes. These people should do what they feel is right.

‚hF@Yes. There are many of them in society.

‚gF@Approve... Well, it's ok, isn't it?

‚xF@I don't know because it never happened to me. But, to me, I think it's a little strange.

‚`F@It happens, right? So it's okay I guess, I don't know much about it to say anything.


What do you think about ‚‰ncest?
‚rF@I think it's ok. If... perhaps if my own children were in such a relationship I would think "Ah, cute". But that's no way to make a comparison, though, I think I can understand the feeling. I think it's ok, as long as both persons are in agreement.

‚hF@Not a chance. Unbelievable.

‚gF@I think it's pathetic. But I never experienced it so I don't know, naturally.

‚xF@Unbelievable.

‚`F@Some people do it. But to me, it's absurd.


Could you love two women at the same time?
‚rF@I think it's impossible(laughs). If it's hard to chase one rabbit, then imagine two...

‚hF@I couldn't. I'm not very skilful...

‚gF@No.

‚xF@No. I think I would be lying to both. And lying to myself.

‚`F@... I don't think I could.


Have you ever loved two women at the same time?
‚rF@No, I think...

‚hF@No. I don't think I could.

‚gF@No. Because when I love someone, it can only be that person. I don't think I could love two people equally.

‚xF@I couldn't.

‚`F@Yes, I've loved 100... 50 each time.


Have you ever wanted to die?
‚rF@When I was a child. "I can't stand living in this house, this family!"

‚hF@I have never really thought that I would like to die. I can forget things that sadden me. Basically I am always very optimistic about the future.

‚gF@Maybe I have, before. But I try not to think about what saddens me.

‚xF@No. No matter how much I suffer, I don't wish to die. I think death is not an escape from worries or suffering.

‚`F@No, because I fear death so much, I don't wish to die.


Your thoughts on ‚“uicide.
‚rF@Parents, siblings... It's fine to feel sadness, everyone feels sadness. But, when I think about the sadness of the people I could leave behind, it really makes me not want to die.

‚hF@I don't approve suicide. It's something where the person doesn't think about what and who's around them, they only think of themselves. If they thought about the sadness of the people around them, I don't think anyone would choose death. Death is not something to choose.

‚gF@If it doesn't bother other people, then do what you will. But, it should be impossible in most cases, after all, there is always someone who will grieve after.

‚xF@I don't think death is an escape. There is a God, so humans shouldn't make decisions like taking their lives away. Everyone will die because humans die, but they shouldn't choose to die.

‚`F@Death is frightening to me. I'd never think about taking my own life.


BUCK-TICK BPASS INTERVIEW 1989 Have you ever considered a lover's ‚“uicide pact? If your love wasn't fulfilled, would you choose death?
‚rF@I've never considered it, and I wouldn't choose death. I never had a love like that. But once I was so madly in love I wanted to ki‚Œ‚Œ the other person. If that happened, I think I would ki‚Œ‚Œ myself anyway.

‚hF@I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't consider death either. I'd try to be optimistic and get over it.

‚gF@No. I would never think about death.

‚xF@I wouldn't consider it. I'd just let things be as they are. I would never ask a person to commit lover's ‚“uicide with me.

‚`F@Of course, I wouldn't choose death. I have never thought about this.


Have you ever got an a‚‚ortion?
‚rF@No.

‚hF@No.

‚gF@No.

‚xF@What a terrible question(laughs). Devilish question(laughs).

‚`F@No.


Do you approve a‚‚ortion?
‚rF@In some cases.

‚hF@Yes. Because there are cases where there is nothing else to do. But I don't think it should be an one-sided decision.

‚gF@I think sometimes there is no choice. It sounds strange to say "there's no choice", but some people really have no choice in some situations, probably.

‚xF@In some cases. I don't think only one person should decide. It's the judgement of someone else's life. I, myself, don't really approve it. But still, I'm a man, I don't know what it is like for a woman.

‚`F@No. I don't approve.


Do you think there is a higher form of ecstasy other than se‚˜?
‚rF@No.

‚hF@I think there isn't a way to compare different forms of pleasure. "Se‚˜" is sensual pleasure.

‚gF@No, I think. (laughs)

‚xF@Maybe not when it is with a person you love.

‚`F@There might be.


Have you ever had se‚˜ without love?
‚rF@No.

‚hF@Yes, but I don't think an explanation is needed...

‚gF@... Can we go on? (laughs)

‚xF@This is also a terrible question... I'll just leave a "?" here... (laughs)

‚`F@... What... (laughs).


Is it possible to live without love?
‚rF@I don't know. Because, if there is no love, there are no situations. I don't know what the world would be like without love, how we would live. In that sense.

‚hF@Though it is painful, I survive. I think.

‚gF@Yeah, I think there's a possibility. Maybe, for example, if you never find love in your lifetime. But for me, well, without love it does get lonely. I'm working hard to live without love.

‚xF@It wouldn't be, for me. I have so much love for others. 'Love' isn't only love limited for romantic love with women. There is friendship, and brotherhood like we have in the band. Love is an important feeling.

‚`F@It wouldn't be, I don't think it's possible for people to live alone.


Are you in love right now?
‚rF@Always.

‚hF@Yes, but there isn't a concrete explanation.

‚gF@(laughs) ... It's not something limited to now or any time, I always want to be in love. I don't want to be lonely.

‚xF@I'm always in love, not necessarily romantic love.

‚`F@Yes.


What are your thoughts regarding the marriage system(One woman/One man, marriage registration etc) in Japan?
‚rF@It doesn't concern me very much. I'm indifferent about it, I think. I may live a single life but I have the tendency to find most things troublesome, even though I do prefer being alone.

‚hF@It's simple. Isn't it fine the way it is? For example, if it were I... Not saying that I have ever married... A piece of paper doesn't change anything, I think. The system as it is now, doesn't bring people together. (illegible) is more of a relief. Honestly, it's something I never did, so I dn't know what the real weight of that piece of paper is.

‚gF@Isn't it fine the way it is? Well, it's a legal process, there is already a stabilished way of doing it and it shouldn't be forced.(laughs) If people want to get married, then get married. That should be it. I don't really think about marriage.

‚xF@It's not really something I think about... I don't even know much about the system, but if two people want to get married, then they should get married. If one does not want to get married, then they shouldn't. Marriage registration, it's a formality. But, if the couple wants to do it, then they should do it. In short, it's all about the couple's feelings, that's the most important thing.

‚`F@It can't be helped, can it? There has to be the legal/formal aspect. Society is very strict about formalities, but I'm not really obsessed with the formal aspect. It's something I haven't done so I don't understand it very well.


What are your thoughts regarding divorce?
‚rF@If you are going to divorce, then don't get married in the first place!

‚hF@In short, I think it's a question of feelings. Further than that, if you married it's because you want to be together. After all, difficult situations will happen. Also, emotionally, aren't there many people who wouldn't do it too?@It's also something I never did so it's hard to understand. Seems to be something very troublesome.*

‚gF@Same thing here. But, it's more severe than getting married. Here there's more than the related problems, it seems to be very troublesome to divorce. But for the 2 persons getting a divorce, it may not be a sad thing but instead something that will be better for them. Maybe they won't feel it's hard alone, but rather that it's painful to be together. And the cause is not always from one's selfishness, I think.

‚xF@That's also very much about the 2 persons' feelings. But it's not like ripping the piece of paper apart and then after that they're two strangers. Because it's hard for feelings to change. If it does end, then I guess they will mutually weigh their emotions and see what to do from there, the consequences. But I think that anyone who wants to get divorced or married should think well before doing anything.

‚`F@Well, it is also something that can't be helped. I also haven't done it so I don't know what to say.
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Are you interested in ‚„rugs?
‚rF@Yes, in an ordinary way.

‚hF@Yes. Feeling and hearing and seeing different things... I like things that make you feel good. it's merely an interest, though.

‚gF@Yes, but I don't wish to try them.

‚xF@Yes. But it's not something I want to try out. Do I really want to try them? No way.

‚`F@Yes, how they changed the music scene, how they influenced the Beatles and changed them... That sort of interest.


Have you ever been extremely confused? How so?
‚rF@I don't know... I don't think so. There are times I do get irritated and lose my temper. When on tour I guess I get better of all this, but after that I could lose my temper.

‚hF@A little. But I don't want to speak much about it, I don't like people seeing me like that, people knowing about such things.

‚gF@No. And, I guess if once I did, I wouldn't know it. I guess most people don't, like when you get angry at something, you don't realize it until later, if the balance of your mental state crumbles, it's not something you will know.(illegible) But it hasn't happened to me.

‚xF@No. Confusion is something I don't understand well.

‚`F@Yes, I had just arrived in Tokyo. I was so confused that time, that whenever I drank tea, smoked or even ate a snack or something I used to get this really bad feeling, like my stomach was turning upside down. That's a true story. I couldn't sleep either. That was terrible.


Do you pick a lover based on your desires?
‚rF@Yes. Because I'm cute, selfish... I usually think about myself first and everything that concerns me and not on the other person. I'm really selfish at times.

‚hF@Yes.

‚gF@No, I don't think it is something that is possible.

‚xF@No. I can't do that. Circumstances and lovers, you can't just "pick" them.

‚`F@Maybe.


Can you explain what is your object of desire?
‚rF@N/A

‚hF@It's only B-T for me.

‚gF@N/A

‚xF@N/A

‚`F@I usually fall in love with the wrong woman(laughs).

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